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23 Jun 2020 18:56:03
Hi Ed002, sorry to bombard you with yet more Pogba questions, but is Arthur seen as an alternative to Pogba by juventus? Thanks.

Slunkyredy1

{Ed002's Note - Not necessarily as they are having a cull of their midfield this summer - but MU are unwilling to help sort out a solution for Pogba.}


1.) 23 Jun 2020 19:29:48
Given the current climate, d'you think it's more likely that Pogba stays than leaves this summer? Also how would the running down of the contract work in regards to the extra year extension? Thank you.

{Ed002's Note - It is unrelated to the current climate. He can run down his contract over the coming season and leave as a free agent. Manchester United can extend and force him to stay yet another year but they cannot profiteer - so if they extended and then sold him he has a claim on the money. By then few if any players would want to sign for a club which behaves so badly toward their own players.}


2.) 23 Jun 2020 21:11:15
Do the club have any plans to offer or negotiate a new contract with pogba ed002?

{Ed002's Note - I really don’t know. He wants to leave.}


3.) 23 Jun 2020 22:34:39
Thanks for that Ed, just highlights how bad the situation really is. I hope the club can resolve things.


4.) 23 Jun 2020 23:41:13
Oh, poor Mr Pogba, we behaved so badly towards him. We only gave him 300K a week and asked him to play football for it. We are EEEEEEVIL.


5.) 23 Jun 2020 23:59:27
If Pogba wants to leave then the club should negotiate the best deal possible. I just don't like the idea of Juve/ Madrid offering players that they want rid of in any potential deal. If their no good for their respective clubs then their no good for Man United regardless of the club's current circumstances/ position in world football. We need players who are committed to helping us get back to the top and not players who view us as a step down.


6.) 24 Jun 2020 07:53:29
Yeah, sounds simple RWWD but I'm not sure that's it 🤔.


7.) 24 Jun 2020 09:58:03
RWWD, Pogba is well paid, arguably overpaid. No one is disputing that. However, he doesn't want to continue to play for us. He should within reason be allowed to choose who he works for.

You might not agree with it, yet I suspect the majority of fellow footballers will view things in a similar way to Pogba rather than that of the fans.

At the end of the day he doesn't want to be at our club. As an asset he his value to the club is diminishing the longer the keep him. While doing so will look in the eyes of many other footballers to be the club mistreating him.

It best the club facilitate his move. Firstly to protect the value of a club "asset". Secondly, to maintain a happy dressing room. Thirdly, to protect the club's image with fellow footballers.


8.) 24 Jun 2020 10:14:11
Shappy,

I agree with your post. The club appear to be more concerned about the business side rather than the football side of the club.

If a player wants to go, which Pogba clearly does, then keeping a player who wants to go doesn't do the team any good.

It would be different if they said to him, look we can't get a replacement this transfer window etc, but next summer you can go.


9.) 24 Jun 2020 13:44:05
Ed you mentioned in the past about non profiteering on pogba due to extending via the option. I was wondering if there’s anywhere you could point me to research this? I’m looking to find somewhere to do a sports law module once my masters is complete this year. If there’s any reading you could recommend that would be much appreciated.

Caolán.

{Ed002's Note - I don't have time to find it right now, but it is a simple clause about profiteering.}


10.) 24 Jun 2020 15:42:20
Caolan

Ed002 has said many times in the last few months.

Any club can activate an extension year but cannot do so to profit on that extension.

Pogba value will be so low come the end of this season that they cannot activate the year to raise the value.

This is the same for any and every club in similar situations.


11.) 24 Jun 2020 16:14:29
Pogbs won't be the first player not to get the move he wants.


12.) 24 Jun 2020 21:08:18
I get that reddevilfan- but if your read my post I’m just looking more info from the legal and drafting side of things regarding such a clause.


 

 

20 May 2020 21:36:15
Hello ED002, Thanks for making lockdown a bit more exciting with the transfer gossip. Are there any updates on potential outgoings? (Lingard, Mata, Matic etc. ) Cheers.

Slunkyredy1

{Ed002's Note - No major changes as far as I know - but Matic has signed a new deal.}


1.) 20 May 2020 22:52:45
Are there any teams still interested in Matic and are the club willing to sell?

{Ed002's Note - He has signed a new deal so no.}


2.) 21 May 2020 10:45:48
Do you want Matic to leave Slunky?


3.) 21 May 2020 16:18:39
Matic has been quality since his return and the reduced number of goals we've conceded is evident.

Far better defensively when Matic plays over Mctominay. Fact.


4.) 21 May 2020 16:45:45
I'd argue he's been our best CDM since his return to the team, sure he took a few games to get fit and didn't really get played for the first half of the year. I was just wondering if he is going to be here next season and how our Midfield could end up looking, especially given that Juventus have a load of CM's on the table. I'm just wondering how frequently he's going to be playing considering our other options in midfield.


5.) 21 May 2020 22:07:29
When fit and on form Matic is our best DM. The problem is that he can't stay fit for a whole season. This year he was out injured until Christmas, so we got his early season form in January and February. Maybe if he only plays one game a week, or every other week then his legs might not be gone by December.

Either way he is a talented and experienced player to have as part of the squad.

He will be useful next season.


6.) 22 May 2020 06:45:57
Matic when not match fit or over used as per his age, he is a liability. Good 9n ball and defensive rock but its pain to see him jogging around without urgency in matches; mostly down to burn out. since his return from injury, he got enough rest to recover. I believe, if used correctly, he can still deliver for 1 more season. Needs frequent sub offs or Game once a week only.


 

 

11 May 2020 10:17:36
Hi ED002, Sorry to keep pestering but is there any possibility of some juicy summer transfer details? Thank you.

Slunkyredy1

{Ed002's Note - I don't rteally think much has changed at the moment and the club will look to to prioritise. Previously a DM would have been a target, but a new contract for Matic has delayed the immediate need. A versatile left sided CM/AM (ideally Jack Grealish is still wanted). There is interest in the future with interest in Jude Bellingham remaining and Joe Hugill being taken as an option to Gelhardt. The club need to decide what to do about adding a striker with Odion Ighalo being the low cost option. There are other youngsters the club have an interest in and could still look to cherry-pick like Ricky-Jade Jones and Kalvin Phillips.

Right now the big driver remains whether or not it will become possible to complete the season (I still think it unlikely) and, if not, how the season will be finished. Then it becomes much clearer what clubs will be able to do, who will be in the Champions League and who will be in the Europa League and how that affects transfers.}


1.) 11 May 2020 13:09:05
Thank you very much Ed002, any news very much appreciated. Hope you and those close to you are staying well and finding positives in these strange times.

{Ed002's Note - And you Wallace.}


2.) 11 May 2020 16:26:32
Thanks Ed! Are there any updates on our RW options?

{Ed002's Note - Federico Chiesa (RW/F) is available much more affordable than Sancho for Manchester United and of prior interest, but Inter remain keen although talks are now on hold. Fiorentina are willing to sell in the summer. Should it happen at some point, he would be a direct replacement, has similar attributes to Salah, is liked by Klopp and, although Liverpool have shown no interest, he will be sold in the summer. As far as I am aware, Liverpool have still not made any approach to Fiorentina for Federico Chiesa. However interest in him from elsewhere remains and it is still the intent if Inter to push for a move for him as soon as they can. And that is the move the player has wanted. Sarri desired the player when at Napoli and he wants to improve his options at Juventus but it would mean moving on both Douglas Costa and Bernardeshi first - although they are trying. Napoli is in turmoil and unattractive to players whilst they get their act together. Prior interest of Milan and Roma has gone due to the asking price.}


3.) 11 May 2020 21:10:27
Chiesa would be a wonderful signing. One of the few proper out and out right wingers in the game. It should be a no brainer between him and Sancho if the sums for Sancho are to be believed.

With AWB at right back and Chiesa at right wing, that could be the right side done for a long time.


4.) 11 May 2020 21:14:45
Sancho looks the better player imo would be better suited to England and the EPL as well.


5.) 11 May 2020 21:19:00
The money for Sancho is obscene, even in football's terms. If Chiesa can be done this summer and for a good price then I think we should pull the trigger.


6.) 11 May 2020 22:33:54
I agree that sancho is the better player with a higher ceiling and will proably adapt quicker.
If the cost of sancho is prohibitive then so be it we have to look at other alternatives.
If the player wants inter them it will probably happen.
Its a position that needs strengthening but a lot will depend on cl qualification and with so much uncertainty around i'm not expecting too much this summer.


7.) 11 May 2020 22:57:18
Thanks for the updates ED! I'm undecided on Chiesa but I think he's a better option than Sancho. Sancho will not be worth the money demanded and I'm not sure he'll be as good for us as people think. His stats are incredible in a very strong team coming up against some not so good defenders. I would ideally prefer a left footer right winger who can cut inside. I still think Greenwood can be effective in scoring from the right hand side, but we do really need a player who can hog the right hand side, which we've been missing for so long. I'd be happy to take a Bale, Costa, Bernadeschi if possible involved in some sort of swap for Pogba and alternate them with greenwood. Chiesa, Sarr or Traore would be the best options right now if we're looking for a long term player.

{Ed002's Note - Bale and Costa are certainly available but we will see what happens.}


8.) 12 May 2020 09:18:52
Everyone is always saying we need to buy the best option have ambition.

Now it seems it all about value for money .


9.) 12 May 2020 10:47:12
Im not sure that's what people are saying. I thin k you said the same thing yourself last week.
That the landscape has changed and because if that it will be harder to get the most expensive players unless their value drops significantly. The money may not be available.


10.) 12 May 2020 10:54:15
Sancho is clearly the better option in terms of footballing ability currently. And for that reason is obviously the first choice.

However, we would need to have our heads in the clouds not to appreciate that there is an upper limit which the club needs to have for every transfer. Apparently the Sancho deal is in the region of 200m when considering transfer fee, wages, agents fees etc. Now that was before C.V., and fees will be impacted.

If Dortmund or his agents won't accept fees at or below the maximum amount we are prepared to pay then we have to walk away. Just as Chelsea have done.

While we are also assuming that Sancho would definitely come to us. He has said he won't move somewhere without UCL football, so there is a chance that this deal might not happen if we don't qualify as well.

In the event that Sancho won't sign or his price tag is higher than the club is prepared to play then we need another target to move on to.

Federico Chiesa by all accounts is an excellent young player who could be a great alternative to Sancho.


11.) 12 May 2020 11:38:47
Ken
Eh? Ken read above people are saying sancho isn't worth the money and the money is obscene and he won't be worth the money .
Or " it should be a no brainer between chiesa or sancho if the sums for sancho are true "

Also the landscape has changed and transfer values imo will be part of that . If united want and can afford sancho I hope they go for him.
Shappy
If a club and agent won't accept a fee that we are willing to pay for a player we will obviously not buy that player.

If we can get sancho i personal would take him every day of the week over chiesa.


12.) 12 May 2020 11:39:44
Thanks Ed!


13.) 12 May 2020 12:40:23
I agree jred that would be my choice also to get sancho. But if the numbers are not workable from our point of view i would look for an alternative.
Mumbles doesn't think he is worth the money being asked, valid opinion and slunky feels that sancho is not the best option again a valid opinion.
Im not sure anybody is saying buy sancho at all costs but i think most would agree that if he is affordable them he would be the best option. some don't think so which is their prerogative.
Ed002 said the deal is upwards of 200m it seems to be very expensive. His agent has demanded a fee in the region of 50m and unless he reduces his ask substantially then i'd say the deal is dead in the water sadly. I can't see us paying the agent that sum ire anything close to it.
He won't sign unless we have cl football according to reports either if that's the case it doesn't bode well.
Id really like him but if the numbers don't work them we will have to look elsewhere.


14.) 12 May 2020 13:23:51
Ken
If the numbers are not workable for a player we won't buy him .
But if the club can do I deal what's the problem?
Mumbles also said on the banter page united won't pay what it takes to get back to the top, so which is it.
As you said mumbles doesn't think he is worth the money.
If people don't think sancho is any good that's there opinion, if slinky would rather bale ( I would take sancho over bale everyday of the week ) that's his opinion.
But the cost is always mentioned
So I'm not sure what your disagreeing with when I say "everyone is always saying we need to buy the best option have ambition.  

Now it seems it all about value for money"


15.) 12 May 2020 14:09:57
I would prefer we bought hungry players around the age of 23 to 25 so we gwr them for a few years at least at their peak. don't want players who are older ad a short term fix.


16.) 12 May 2020 14:53:14
Im not arguing with you other than i'm not sure that its lots of people that are saying that.
As a club we have paid and will always pay over the odds for some players.
Its a fine balance of getting value and getting the right player.
In the past we only had to buy 1 or 2 players to compliment a great squad successful winning squad so paying over the odds for 1 big player was palatable but now the money has got so much bigger and we need 3 4 or 5 players to compete so busting the budget on 1 player will probably not have the desired affect. Liverpool are now at that point. They don't need as many players so can pay big money on 1. It will take a while to rebuild yet again.
So perhaps that's where people are coming from.
Personally i think we need 3 or 4 starters and if we buy sancho we won't get them as there is so much going on him. If we don't get the balance right i would have a concern that sancho would come but because of other deficiencies in the team that he won't be enough to move is forward.
A lot will depend on cl qualification which is by no means certain.
A lot will depend on budget for transfers
A lot will depend on getting others sold and freeing up space.
Matic looks set to stay
Pogba will he stay or go? This will have an impact in the budget for sure.
Rojo jones smalling lingard are likely to move on but I'm not sure they well generate big money so perhaps with the changing landscape we will Neff to be more creative and open to player swaps if its possible.
Like so much else in today's world so much is up in the air.


17.) 12 May 2020 16:46:30
Ken
But nobody has said any of that above, certainly when I posted my op?
It was more a case of " If Chiesa can be done this summer and for a good price then I think we should pull the trigger "
Your agreeing and disagreeing at the same time . Its as bad as boris.


18.) 12 May 2020 17:23:20
As usual we're arguing on this site when we probably agree more than we disagree. I just want to clarify that if it were a straight pick between Sancho and Bale I'd obviously prefer Sancho. However, Pogba needs to go and by the sounds of things, swaps are the most viable option. I wouldn't mind a Costa/ Bale alternating with Greenwood and Chong (Hopefully he puts on some muscle over the lockdown) . Then in a year or two we can re-evaluate who we should or shouldn't splash the cash on. I do fear Sancho's stats, team and general hype might be misleading people on their judgement of him. There's no guarantee he adapts and continues his form, I just don't think it's worth the risk.

{Ed002's Note - The issue with Bale is his age and wages. His options are dwindling.}


19.) 12 May 2020 19:09:49
Im disagreeing that its loads of people. it was a couple that's all. I don't think that's the overwhelming feeling.


20.) 12 May 2020 19:43:09
Sancho would be my choice by Chiesa is a good alternative if the money isn't there.


21.) 12 May 2020 22:04:28
Chiesa would be my choice too and I don't think Sancho is as good as people think he is and certainly not for 200 mill. I rather we go ge5 Chiesa and Nigues for 200 mill then splashing all of the money on Sancho. 😉😉.


22.) 12 May 2020 22:19:23
To be honest I've only seen Chiesa in a couple of games and a few highlights and I've not been watching him intently. So I've no real opinion on him. He is exciting at times. Looks a good player.
There have not been too many hugely successful Italian imports into the epl, i'm not sure why that is. Like the English players they tend to stay at home more often than not.


23.) 12 May 2020 23:26:42
ken
Exactly I'm far from convinced but he is a fancy name and that's what dome people like . Whereas sancho is English, before you disagree just keep an eye out thd same people will say thd samd things .

So if your only disagree with the word loads change it to a few . Althought there is a similar thread on the page 2 below.


24.) 13 May 2020 03:01:54
Only Ronaldo, Mbappe, Neymar, Salah, Mane and Messi shpuld be going for anywhere near 150 mill plus. Anyone else should not be anywhere that amount.


 

 

18 Nov 2019 13:08:19
Hi Ed's, is there anything in the rumours linking us to Danny Loader?

Thanks.

Slunkyredy1

{Ed002's Note - He has been looked at by a number of PL clubs and Wolves still want him - but he would certainly not be ready for the first team for most PL sides.}


1.) 18 Nov 2019 13:34:06
Cheers Ed.


 

 

23 Aug 2019 01:35:51
Any updates on the whole De Gea situation?

Slunkyredy1

1.) 24 Aug 2019 14:47:18
Good question.


 

 

 

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03 Nov 2021 20:09:09
What is it with Ole and Rushing back players? He did it with Rashford about 2 years ago, put him on against Wolves, where he got injured. Same with Lingard, played him against Liverpool and he tore something. Varane out. Maguire's recent form would also suggest to me because he's been abnormally awful. Even Mctominnay was poor after he came back a few games ago. It's just poor management that just risks the player picking up another injury. Just play someone who's fit?

Slunkyredy1

1.) 03 Nov 2021 20:15:48
Jesus christ if he did that he might have to play van de beek are you crazy!


2.) 03 Nov 2021 20:35:40
He only plays his favourites, and the hypocrisy last night when he asked Sancho and Donny to save his job was off the charts. Personally, if I was Donny I'd have scored an own goal just to get rid of the fraud.


3.) 03 Nov 2021 20:42:14
Fresh, they're professional footballers, who came on and did the job they're getting well paid for.


4.) 03 Nov 2021 20:51:19
Jesus, we need to get the Samaritans involved, the mood on here is suicidal.

Some of the posts and comments since last night's game have been ridiculous.

Seriously, if United are affecting you this much then you are either over reacting or are lucky you don't have bigger things to worry about.

I love my club but some perspective is needed.


5.) 03 Nov 2021 20:52:44
And that’s why you don’t play for United among other reasons I guess :) - hopefully you are also self employed!


6.) 03 Nov 2021 21:11:31
Yet more evidence of ole’s poor management. He’s clearly rushing players back to try and keep his job, his ego is to the detriment of those players. Maguire, varane and rashford all examples, nothing changes with him and he will do it again.


7.) 03 Nov 2021 21:17:05
I think the reason I don't play for United is my lack of football playing capability mate.


8.) 03 Nov 2021 21:50:41
He learnt it from Fergie, who often did that with his players. I remember Fergie saying well he has trained for the last 2 days so he should be ok for the game tomorrow.


9.) 03 Nov 2021 22:44:49
Sun went down tonight. Again. I blame Ole.


10.) 04 Nov 2021 07:39:50
I'd imagine we need a review of the medical staff, if they keep passing a player fit to play when they aren't.

I remember when Sir Alex used to continuously injure our CB's, Rio, Vidic, Brown, Smalling and Jones struggled to stay fit for more than a few months under that tyrant. Forcing them to run around and play football. Who did he think he was.


11.) 04 Nov 2021 08:52:45
Don't compare fergie with ole. Another pathetic attempt at deflection. Your embarrassing yourself shappy.


12.) 04 Nov 2021 09:16:40
Ken, just pointing out that under Sir Alex we had a serious injury problem with our defenders. The club hired new medical staff and even considered changing the training pitches. And was said sarcastically with tongue in cheek.

Injuries happen, they happen more regularly when a player is returning from injury. As the body is readjusting to pushing it's boundaries again.

Ultimately a decision on when a player makes their competitive return is made by not just the manager, but by the medical staff and the player.

I remember Louis Saha was very particular and wouldn't make himself available unless he felt 100% fit, something other players criticised. It might have been Gary Neville who said he didn't think he was ever 100% fully fit during his entire career. That he was always carrying a knock, or a bruise or just an ache somewhere in his body.

So clearly there is a lot of grey area. Some players are prepared to play with a certain amount of pain and will make themselves available, others are not.

I remember earlier in the season a player got kicked when coming back from an injury and people blamed the manager.

I'm all for fair criticism, and Ole is deserving of a lot of it. But sometimes people just want to blame the manager for everything, which aside from being boring, makes people look more than a little thick.


13.) 04 Nov 2021 14:23:42
Injuries happen a lot more regularly when your not playing well and losing.
Don’t happen nowhere near as much when your winning, strange that!


14.) 04 Nov 2021 15:19:19
Jens, are you suggesting that players are less keen to player and are dodging their jobs because the going is getting tough?

So is that on the players or the manager?


15.) 04 Nov 2021 16:23:42
What I’m saying is quite clear
Players miss games through injury much less when the team is winning then they do when team is losing! Even for you, I would have thought you could understand that, perhaps if you ever played professionally you would understand! Not managing a Sunday league team, maybe that’s why you can’t comprehend that….


16.) 04 Nov 2021 17:28:28
Jens, calm down and untwist your knickers. Why in your informed opinion do players get less injuries when a team is playing well?

Also where did you get your statistics on injuries Vs how well a team is playing?

Also is that a relative to the squad/ league etc or just across the board.

I mean do teams that get relegated have more injuries than the team that wins the league? Or is it a case of when a team is playing poorer than the sum of its parts there are more injuries directly compared to when a team is playing greater than the sum of its parts?


 

 

23 Sep 2021 10:54:05
"We lose more games when Donny plays". I need to address this weird blinkered viewpoint that some of you keep pedalling.

Maybe you should consider that the games he plays are usually against opposition where Ole decides to chuck out a disjointed B team, who are devoid of match sharpness and have very little cohesion as they rarely play together. This means that our overall team standard when he plays is depleted.

We all know that Ole lacks any substantial tactical nouse, and relies on individual moments to win games. He is yet to implement a style that shows a coherent footballing system, hence why even when our best team plays we struggle to play decent football. This will only be amplified when he puts out a team of his rejects.

You have to look at the context of the team and matches in which Donny is being selected, before passing judgement on Donny as a player. I thought he played very well last night. He has a strong ability to scan the pitch and make good passes that allow us to progress through the opposition midfield. If he makes a pass that is intercepted I'm not too fussed as I can see the reason as to why he tried to make that pass, whereas with Fred it's his inability to control the ball and make a simple 5 yard pass that is simply unforgivable. With the current form of Fred, and the return of Mctomminay, it only makes sense to me that Donny should be given a slot alongside Mctomminay, and that we should at least try it as he can't be any worse than Fred. Let's start playing McDON.

Slunkyredy1

1.) 23 Sep 2021 11:20:53
He played very well? Let’s be honest he didn’t play very well . None of them did.


2.) 23 Sep 2021 11:48:56
Good post slunky agree with a lot of that.


3.) 23 Sep 2021 12:00:40
Ole is running out of excuses.


4.) 23 Sep 2021 13:00:48
I agree slunky, DvB had a decent game, made a great pass to put in Greenwood, if Pogba had of played that pass the media would still be creaming about it.

The form of Fred this season is worse than ever, can't believe just how bad he has been, even for him! To me DvB should be given a good chance but I just can't see Ole picking him.

Greenwood played the first game of the season through the middle and had a really good game, the next week against Southampton he is moved to the right to accommodate Martial, who after last season still gets picked?


5.) 23 Sep 2021 13:28:39
Is Fred's bad form because of the fact he has played a lot?
Maybe.

But fred should be the last choice in midfield.
Donny has shown that he can play this level and any sane manager starts him on weekend.


6.) 23 Sep 2021 14:26:34
Good post slunky. He was by far the best player last night. Would be nice to actually see him get a run ahead of Fred in the 1st team.


7.) 23 Sep 2021 15:50:15
Evening Slunky, good post mate. On a side note, nice to see Lingard show a bit of quality over the last couple of games. He might have a say in a lot of games this year.


8.) 23 Sep 2021 16:40:22
Lingard was very poor lady night mumbled running around like a headless chicken.
He is the best understudy we have for Bruno but I don't think he will start many games.
Dead rubbers in Europe or cameos from the bench. Maybe fa Cup till we're dumped out if that in 3rd or 4th round.
Wole has no idea how to manage a squad. He hardly rotated last year then makes 11 changes that's not rotation its stupidity when it doesn't work and you've won nothing for years.


9.) 23 Sep 2021 17:08:21
I agree about last night Kenny. He's one of those players who needs quality around him to do well. I would have shipped him personally but after the first few games I think he's shown his worth to be on the bench.


10.) 23 Sep 2021 20:48:25
Lingard, Martial and Mata out and Elanga and Mejbri promoted to first team. This is what we should have done. This would have given our youth the chance this season.
I don't understand the need for so many attacking players.
Especially when Pogba and Donny can fill in at attack if need be.


11.) 23 Sep 2021 21:49:38
Ole, Carrie and McKenna all out of excuses
AWB, DVB, Martial, Lingard, Henderson, Fred, should be close behind them and all out the door.

Never win anything with this lot at club.


 

 

23 Aug 2021 22:06:24
Yes it's me again. Slunky. All I've contributed is how Jesse Lingard is indeed the lord and saviour. Also how we shouldn't just bomb out martial (Yesterday's showing not helping my cause. : () Also how we shouldn't overpay for Sancho (we didn't :) .

However still slightly concerned when I asked if Sancho's best position is LW or RW (I assumed it was LW) . I asked this because I wondered whether he was a better LW than Rashford, and if he's a better right hand player than Greenwood and Diallo. We'll have to wait and see. I know he's had no pre-season and barely any game time, but I really hope he proves me wrong and makes that right hand position his own. I just have a feeling he's not the man for the right in the long term. Time shall tell. I am not suggesting we shouldn't have bought him for the price paid, just curious if he is the man to solve our problems on the right (Greenwood and Diallo should sort this IMHO) . In my opinion he's best served at LW and possibly at CAM. Will be useful in rotation with bruno and Ashford if Pogba leaves (Ole probably doesn't have the brains to see this) .

Slunkyredy1

 

 

23 Jun 2021 19:15:05
Said it before, will say it again. I'm worried about this Sancho signing. Will stunt the growth of Greenwood and Diallo.

He's overpriced and I doubt his stats from the Bundesliga will follow him to the Prem, where the majority of his goal contribution comes from the LEFT wing. I don't see him being more prolific on that right hand side when Greenwood has the ability to go either way with either foot.

Furthermore he's overpriced and I've explained that if someone has been bought for more than their market value, whilst being put on high wages, it makes them difficult to move on/ replace if they don't cut it.

I hope he proves me wrong and I hope he gets a great return in goal contributions.

Slunkyredy1

{Ed014's Note - do you think he’s over priced Slunky? 😉


1.) 23 Jun 2021 19:49:13
Looks like the people who make the decisions at United also think he is overpriced, but they think that about everyone.


2.) 23 Jun 2021 21:03:30
You need a squad not just an 11.

Cavani ain't gna play every game and won't be here after next season

greenwood can play striker and rw

Sancho can play left and righ

Rashford can play in all 3

If we want to get back to being the best we need more than just a first 11.

Our bench atm is poor sancho only adds to the team and add competetion for places which is only good for the team.


3.) 23 Jun 2021 22:13:46
Sancho is going to offer a real alternative to Rashford on the LW.

He's going to allow for more rotation and perhaps meaning more games for Amad.

I'd expect Martial to leave and Greenwood to rotate with Cavani at CF. Gunwood is wasted on wing, he's clinical and needs to be in the box and replacing Cavani long-term.


4.) 23 Jun 2021 23:12:58
The cream always rises to the top.


5.) 23 Jun 2021 23:15:48
Would much prefer Coman, seems a more reasonably priced option and is better. Although, personally I would rather see Greenwood and Diallo cover the RW and see the money spent elsewhere.


6.) 24 Jun 2021 00:06:09
Coman is not better and sancho is better than both greenwood and diallo on the wing.


7.) 24 Jun 2021 01:33:56
Furthermore, he’s overpriced.


8.) 24 Jun 2021 07:40:14
It might alow Rashford the chance to get a rest and have the operation he needs. Sancho on LW, Greenwood on the RW, then there are Diallo, James and Martial all available for rotation.

I still think he is overpriced and would have preferred Raphinha. But if he is signed by the club I will support the player. At the end of the day the fee a club pays for a lawyer isn't the players fault.


9.) 24 Jun 2021 08:07:33
I disagree Bolger, I don't see anything in Sancho to suggest he'll be much better than Greenwood and Diallo. I also believe Greenwood, at least, Diallo possibly, have far more potential than Sancho. I stand by the idea that Coman is currently better than Sancho, closer to the finished product and would be cheaper all round. My main concern is that Sancho will be another Sanchez, huge wages and near impossible to shift if it doesn't work out. It's a very United style signing though.


10.) 24 Jun 2021 09:39:49
Sancho is a fantastic talent, so is Diallo and Greenwood.

My concern is if Ole will rotate the squad wisely so that Amad, Diallo and Greenwood get game time in equal measure.
Pep is a master in doing that.

Another concern is, do we have top class coaches that can help these young players develop and maximize their potential?


11.) 24 Jun 2021 09:49:16
TRD, that is something I doubt. I would personally prefer to see Martial and Rashford on the left, with Rashford being told he will be rested far more, and Martial being told he has a season to make the cut. With Greenwood and Diallo on the right. I'd like to see Elanga promoted to cover Cavani, he showed great positional awareness and strength in that Wolves game, and seems suited for that role (but Radford, Greenwood and Martial can still cover there too when needed) .

That means the situation could be re-evaluated next season, with Greenwood replacing Cavani in the centre and Diallo stepping up for the RW position with Pellestri covering, if they are all ready.

There's also the fact that James and Lingard are still at the club and will likely get the minutes in lesser games over the youth players.

Sancho just seems like a waste of money and a gamble considering the need of a CB and a DM.


12.) 24 Jun 2021 10:17:20
LovelyLudwigVan,

Have you actually seen him play for dortmund or are you judging of his England appearances?, Sancho is currently a better RW than greenwood the only thing greenwood has over Sancho is finishing because greenwoods a striker not a RW, Sancho is a better dribbler, passer and vision, his movement from the wing is all better than greenwoods he will be a great addition to the squad and adds another dimension to our forward line we haven't got anyone who is as good as him on the wings in tight areas we have people who like to run fast now we will have a tricky player whos creativity from the wing we need desperately, we all go on about fernandes if he ain't playing well we don't becuase he is the only one who is creative in the forward line now we are adding one to fill that hole people complain that we are ok as we have a striker on rw and a young boy who showed that he isn't reay for top flight football yet its crazy city had at one point sterling, marhez, sane, and sliva for there wings all 4 of them start for us in an instant so why are we complaining that we have got another RW when we actually don't have a proper winger in the first place I lover greenwood but for me he isn't a RW you can tell he is a striker playing on the wing for me and would be better if he learns his trade playing in the position he is meant to be in.


13.) 24 Jun 2021 12:42:46
I've only actually seen him play for Dortmund. It's actually quite hard to see him play for England, considering he only seems to get the odd sub appearance here and there and I don't watch international football all that much. With Dortmund, they seem to play a lot through him, meaning he requires service i order to create and to be a focal point, which would not necessarily be the case at United, where the forwards are often starved of service and Fernandes and Pgoba are the focal points through the centre. So I do believe his numbers would be significantly lower in the EPL. If his numbers are lower, the mob will be on his back and that could impact his game even more, there would be a lot expected from a close to 80 million pound signing, if he doesn't produce non stop high quality. well we see what people say about the likes of Pogba, Fernandes, Martial, Rashford as soon as the have a bad game or two, or even fail to produce for a whole 90 minutes.


14.) 24 Jun 2021 17:10:25
Agree with Slunky on opening post- I have doubts regarding Sancho and the price tag/ expectancy from him. I find similarities to CHO at chelsea where a lot was expected but through chances and application it hasn't worked out as well. The price without wages could Hit £140 million with agents fees etc and for me that's too much of a bad bet. Would rather a CDM of quality come in or even grealish and move rashford to back up striker as cavani won't play every game or rW as greenwood wont. If pogba keeps up the performances I think he will go this year rather than run his contract so we have a fair few key areas to address imo.


 

 

09 Jun 2021 16:21:36
Slunky's 3 Point Plan: Martial, Trippier, Sancho

- I see plenty of fans here slating Martial and "wanting him sold". 2 seasons back he got 27 goals and assists. How much do you reckon we'd get for him? 30/ 40 mil? Is it really worth hounding him out of the club for a small fee, when on form he can actually be a decent backup at LW and CF. Sure he's no Cavani, but in cup matches and against lower teams, there's no reason why he shouldn't be a decent rotation. Let's not just turn on our players the moment they go through a bad spell. If we sold him, who would be our backup strikers/ LW and who would we replace him with? This isn't Fifa. You can't just Swap Martial + Lingard+ a bag of chips for Kane.

- Why would we buy Trippier? He'd be extra on the wage budget. Has the same amount of goal involvements as Wan Bissaka, despite playing in the best team in a weaker league. He's also 30. He's good going forward but poor defensively. Kinda like Dalot. Except Dalot is 7 years younger? . What about Brandon Williams? Or have you lot decided that he's not good enough despite him barely getting any game time, which inhibits his ability to gain any sort of form. Ethan Laird? Nah let's just sign a 30 year old who isn't an upgrade on Wan Bissaka and inhibits the development of our younger players. Genius.

Finally Sancho. Is his best position on the LW? Most of his highlights seem to indicate so. He's right footed, so won't be scoring goals like Greenwood can where he cuts in on his left foot. I can't really see him bombing down the wing and getting in cross like ADAMA traore because he's not that type of explosive winger. So will he really be that impactful from the right? Are his numbers going to convert from the Bundesliga? I highly doubt it. Also where does his signing leave Greenwood? Cavani will have CF, Sancho RW and Rashford LW. Greenwood's development will be inhibited, as will AMAD Traore. Is he really worth the 90 mil?

Realistically Sancho isn't worth the money, and trippier need not be signed. We need fast CB's so we can hold a higher line and compress the opposition in their own half. Maguire and Lindelof as a pairing aren't the answer. Also Fred needs to be upgraded. A CB and CDM should be our main priorities.

Slunkyredy1

1.) 09 Jun 2021 17:37:12
There are definitely some big decisions to be made by the club this year and also certain players may be playing there last season for the club depending on how they play. In response Slunky I thing:
1. Martial is a player that plays best when he has a run of games which worries me as a rotational player, that said I would suggest he is the next best thing we have on the left side with Rashford and can also play instead of Cavani. Unless we get a good offer or he can be used as a barganing chip I see him still being with us next season and hopefully he can get his head right.
2. I don't see the problem with bringing Trippier in so long as the price is not too high. Wan Bisaka needs to be reseted more than he was this year and I am not sure that Laird is ready to step up (loan move) or that Olly sees Williams as an option (this is a shame as i thought he should have had a chance last year) . Trippier for me also gives us a better option if we play 3 at the back at times as the up and down wide option. He could have a good year with either AWB improving his forward play or Laird coming back in.
3. Sancho, he is definitely a RW that is also comfortable on the LW coming in for the exact reason that Rashford likes to play out there. I think that Olly wants a skillfull and interchangable front 3 rather than wingers that will hit the sideline with pace. He will be an upgrade on the past few seasons and my hope is that it allows Greenwood to get more time as CF ready to take over from Cavani next year. On the money front he is not what we pay but then again who is and for better value I would happily go for Raphina but then I could also argue the same that instead of Rice I would take Bissouma but we all know the club like there big ticket purchases.


2.) 09 Jun 2021 18:33:30
Slunky.
I'm not sure who you mean when you refer to you lot?
'Or have you lot decided that he's not good enough despite him barely getting any game time, which inhibits his ability to gain any sort of form.
Nobody here decided to pursue trippier ole and the scouting staff decided that.
Nobody here is hounding martial out of the club. Personally I wouldn't waste a hound on him or another pound in wages but that's just my opinion.
You argue that trippier would hinder williams progress will martial not hinder hugill or amad or mcneil or greenwood? the manager ignored Williams all season he will have his reasons for that.
Why keep martial the 3rd highest paid player at the club for a few cup games as you put it when one of the kids can do that and the wages can be spend on a player that will perform weekly.
I don't know if sancho is the answer on the right.
You seem to want different things and signings than the manager does. I just want a different manager.
We all want something different.
Your ideas don't match with ole so no point blaming us lot for that🤣.


3.) 09 Jun 2021 19:14:14
The balance of the squad is wrong really. Plenty of great prospects, but few of them ready to be even near the first team. To be fair Ole has given them more chances than his predecessors, and looks to be giving them all experience when the right games come along. The squad has a few old experienced heads, like Mata, Matic and Cavani, who must be brilliant to be around. Where the club is lacking is worldclass players in their prime, or not far from those years. I'd say we have one or two, and I have to put Maguire up there. It has been quite an eye-opener hearing him bashed all season, but the moment he is injured the whole country is in uproar about how weak England are defensively without him. Neville even called him our most important player.

{Ed0666's Note - McGuire world class? That’s a highly contentious statement could you please corroborate it with evidence please?


4.) 09 Jun 2021 19:15:20
Why hound martial out? He’s been head 5+ years now and either through form or injury has not managed to nail down a spot. Time to move on. Massive wages, and can’t even manage a smile when he scores.


5.) 09 Jun 2021 19:43:06
C'mon Ed. Maguire is no Beckennauer for sure, but he'd is head and shoulders above any centreback Utd have had since Vidic, surely? City wanted him too. Not the fastest, with the turning circle of a Boeing 747, but he's a clear leader and dominant defender in a team of pansys. With a 'better' technical player alongside him we'd have a great pairing.

{Ed0666's Note -The fact that he’s ‘the best’ since vidic doesent make him world class mate. Maybe the best of a bad bunch would be more accurate which is not being complimentary on my part


6.) at09 Jun 2021 20:05:01
Maguire and world class, wow lol. I heard it all.

Martial isn't even capable to lace Cavani's boots. Cavani in his 30's does more work rate than Martial has ever done.


7.) 09 Jun 2021 20:42:55
Ken, I'm not saying the fans are responsible for the signing of Trippier. I'm saying I don't believe him to be an upgrade on Wan Bissaka. If his signing means that Williams can go out on loan that's the only reason I'd be happy about signing him.

Martial 19/ 20 season: 31 Prem games, 17 goals, 6 assists
Cavani 20/ 21 season: 26 Prem games, 10 goals, 3 assists

Now I am in no way saying that I think martial is the better player, nor is he anywhere near as good when contributing to the play style of our team, or heading, or tackling, or as in intelligent etc etc. I'm simply trying to say that he is a decent player, and he isn't worth getting rid of due to the lack of money we'd get for him. I'm simply saying he's a good back up and can be rotated. Then again Ole doesn't seem to rotate, he seems to want to play players into form, or into the ground, and if it doesn't work, he just drops them for months on end.

The difference between the trippier inhibiting player development in comparison to martial is that:
A) Martial still has room to develop himself, whereas trippier is at his best.
B) Williams proved to me that he could compete with Luke Shaw over a sustained period, whereas Hugill and McNeill haven't even played for us yet. Furthermore Martial isn't inhibiting the growth of Greenwood and Traore, because they play Right Wing.

I don't care about martial's smile, or the fact that he's not as good Cavani, the point is it's a squad game and he's the best backup for both positions that we have (Assuming Greenwood starts RW) . If we were to get rid of him, who would we sign to cover both positions? Tbh if we signed Sancho then Martial can go but I'd honestly have Sancho as a cover for Rashford and Greenwood (but the price is still crazy) . I agree on the manager though. All we attained this season was 5 points extra, in a season where loads of other big teams dropped off.


8.) 09 Jun 2021 21:08:11
What people fail to notice is that Cavini wasn't scoring an awful lot and was actually being criticised by a few before Pogba came back from injury, which also coincided with Martial picking up his. I'm sure Martial would have started banging the goals in if he had played the last few weeks, as he always has when Pogba is in the side. The problem before Pogba is both Martial and Cavani were getting next to no service.


 

 

 

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09 Sep 2020 17:54:56
As we've seen with Maguire/ Pogba and whoever else, overpaying for a player can be an issue. If you decide they aren't good enough for you, or don't fit in your system, you'll struggle to move them on and recoup a similar amount of money to what you paid for them. I sure hope Sancho is worth the well over £120 million total package, because if he isn't as impactful as the likes of Greenwood, Martial and Rashford, we'll be in a difficult situation. Let's hope he doesn't keep a better player out of the team due to his price tag. Let's pray he's not overhyped and doesn't just look amazing because of the league and team he's playing in. Of course I'll back him, and you can all mock me if he becomes our best attacker, but I am skeptical of the deal at the given price.

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23 Jun 2020 22:34:39
Thanks for that Ed, just highlights how bad the situation really is. I hope the club can resolve things.

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23 Jun 2020 19:29:48
Given the current climate, d'you think it's more likely that Pogba stays than leaves this summer? Also how would the running down of the contract work in regards to the extra year extension? Thank you.

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{Ed002's Note - It is unrelated to the current climate. He can run down his contract over the coming season and leave as a free agent. Manchester United can extend and force him to stay yet another year but they cannot profiteer - so if they extended and then sold him he has a claim on the money. By then few if any players would want to sign for a club which behaves so badly toward their own players.}


 

 

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21 May 2020 16:45:45
I'd argue he's been our best CDM since his return to the team, sure he took a few games to get fit and didn't really get played for the first half of the year. I was just wondering if he is going to be here next season and how our Midfield could end up looking, especially given that Juventus have a load of CM's on the table. I'm just wondering how frequently he's going to be playing considering our other options in midfield.

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20 May 2020 22:52:45
Are there any teams still interested in Matic and are the club willing to sell?

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23 Sep 2021 10:33:47
I did keep harping on to all of you guys well before he signed that he wasn't as good as Greenwood on the right. Is actually a left winger. I also mentioned how his stats in a well drilled team in the Bundesliga wouldn't convert into the Prem in a team that's so poorly drilled and essentially has a very limited play style, that mainly relies on individual moments to win games. I also mentioned to you lot that we should've got Allan Saint Maximin or Sarr, and we even could've got Chiesa a few windows earlier. I don't know where those stats about him being predominantly a right winger come from, but the majority of his highlights show him scoring or assisting from the left. Basically half our fanbase just got convinced by his highlights.

That being said he's talented, and would fit well in a team that is coached properly to make preplanned runs, that actually break teams down. His strength is his consistent passing and short bursts of 1-2's in and around the box. He should be the man to help us break down teams that sit back and defend compactly. I doubt the manager is capable of getting the best out of him.

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31 Aug 2021 22:56:33
CB, MF and RW. Well we signed Varane who's a class addition at CB. But Sancho isn't a right winger. And we haven't signed a CDM. So we've only really signed 1 out of 3 necessary positions. But it's ok for me because I can't think of many players I'd want ahead of Greenwood on that right hand side. We didn't really need Ronaldo but we went ahead and got him anyways which I'm happy with. I think people are so desperate for a CDM for two reasons. Firstly Fred is playing awfully and he needs upgrading. But secondly and most importantly I think our fanbase, and a lot of football fans in general, can see that we've actually got a squad/ first 11 that looks like it compete. This is our best squad in a long time and I understand people's urgency at wanting a CDM because it feels like the last piece of a jigsaw (manager aside) . It's less people being ungrateful for me, and more people just being optimistic and feeling like we might be able to compete if not for one more player. Just my two cents.

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30 Aug 2021 19:06:22
Thank you Red Man, I tried to tell people that Sancho wasn't prem proven, and all his highlights were of him playing well in Dortmund were on the left hand side. I was constantly told he was the man for the right. It seems people were bought by his highlights. It's a real shame that some of our fanbase get so carried away on hype trains. Hopefully he doesn't end up keeping better players out of the team.

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06 Aug 2021 00:20:36
As a 21 year old boarding school boyo, I can confirm Ed002 is very right about the "special relationships" lol. Supporting Man Utd was probably the reason why I never had traumatic experiences. When I was 11, I shared a dorm with a boy from Manchester who reminds me a lot of Brandon Williams. Skinny but absolutely hard as nails, could fight people twice his size. Saved me from being bullied by a Newcastle supporter by regularly putting him in his place. The beatings helped straighten the kid out and now we're best mates. Can't thank him enough for having my back. Dortmund were my second team for a while, as under Klopp I thought they played the most beautiful football in the world. I always wanted Klopp to be Ferguson's replacement.

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03 Aug 2021 19:51:00
I honestly can't understand why people keep running with this narrative of "It's not my money so I don't care".

If you pay over the odds for a player, or put them on an unjustifiably high wage, it is more difficult to move them on.

Players like Jones, Pogba, Fred all come to mind. Why would anyone think it's ok for us to just break the bank for a right back, who probably isn't even better than Wan Bissaka, When we need a CDM.

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