Manchester United Banter

20 May 2024 11:56:24
So what are everyone's starting 11s for the final?

Personally I would go:

Onana
AWB Varane Martinez Dalot

Cass Mainoo

Scotty
Amad Garnacho

Bruno


Make sure we're in the game with 25 to go and then introduce Rash and Hojlund.

20 May 2024 12:07:13
I think hojlund or Rashford will start instead of Amad and then bruno or Garnacho will move to the right hand side.

20 May 2024 12:22:31
I think he will start rashford ahead of Anthony and amad.
I think playing no striker against city will cost us dearly.
I'd rather varane was not part of the team personally under normal circumstances but I reckon he won't be the only one putting in his last appearance for united on the day manager included.
Hopefully between wilcox and the coaches they can come up with a plan that works on the day.

20 May 2024 12:13:23
Mine is quite similar to yours 12day with a little tweak

. Onana
AWB Varane Martinez Dalot

. Cass Mainoo

Amad , Bruno . Garnacho

. , - Rasmus.

20 May 2024 12:50:55
Hojlund has to start, his shot conversion rate is really high, better than Haaland and Isak.

In a game of few chances we’ll need players who can finish.

Although the odds are massively against us we’ve been written off by everybody. That’s fuel to upset the odds.

20 May 2024 13:34:11
Wazza we won the last 2 games in a row with him in the bench. When was the last time that happened?
He does not have to start.
I'd rather he did but because Bruno has no positional discipline him in our midfield 3 leaves us badly exposed as it has all season
We look defensively better without Bruno in a midfield 3.

20 May 2024 14:33:11
Hojlund isn’t the sort of player you’d want to see coming off the bench for last 20/ 25 mins. I think if we can keep it tight for 70mins, putting Hojlund on would cause them some problems. Might be a good tactic.

20 May 2024 14:50:31
I think i would rather start with the three in midfield in Casemiro, Mainoo and Mctominay. Gives the back 4 a bit more protection.
Every player on that picth is going to have to work there arse off just to stay in the game. Can't have any passengers giving 75 percent which is why i hope he doesn't play Rashford plus the lad Amad deserves his chance after his last couple of performances.

20 May 2024 16:41:06
I think rashford and Hojlund coming off the bench at 70 minutes would cause some discomfort for the defence, but as we may well be 4 goals down by then it might not matter. I really wish we had a decent DM to play with Casemiro, but I'd rather Scott than Amrabat.

19 May 2024 22:44:26
I'm a bit lost with what's going on with city. So have they got away with 115 charges whatever they are just cause they have millions and the best solicitors?

19 May 2024 23:53:40
Are you surprised. It will drag on and on and eventually they’ll settle for a financial punishment, which will be paid in private and the premier league will hope we all forget about it! If they wanted to take the case forward they would have done something by now.

20 May 2024 00:42:58
Welcome to the real world.

20 May 2024 01:52:04
No, the case hasn’t been heard yet, I think it will be crazy for them not to get punished. If I was them i'd want the case heard asap as they are adamant they are innocent and at the moment it’s difficult to respect their success when it feels so much like they have cheated. Lance Armstrong springs to mind.

20 May 2024 02:28:14
The league has seen enough wrong doing to charge them. We are all waiting, tick tock tick tock. We, the fans, cannot allow this to go away quietly.

20 May 2024 07:11:40
115 separate charges equates to a lot of information to gather and process. Some, I would imagine are linked. It’s standard practice to review all of the data and collate all of the information before charges are brought.

20 May 2024 07:18:39
I don't think Everton and Forest will allow it to go away.

20 May 2024 08:05:02
They’re going down harder than an Iranian president in a helicopter.

20 May 2024 09:15:35
My thoughts exactly Banjoe. I can't begin to pretend I understand the whole process but I would have thought the Premier League have set their stall out with the dealing of Forest and Everton. Am I right in thinking Leicester have been done as well?

If City don't get any charges, I'd imagine the Premier League will have a lot of explaining to do, particularly with other clubs that have been found guilty.

I've been thinking recently that Guardiola may walk away after this season. Klopp has gone, he's done a long time with City now for him and I have wondered a couple of times that if he was to walk away after this season, that may suggest he's not prepared to be involved with the club when the process starts which maybe telling. Obviously this is just pure speculation (wishful thinking maybe) from my side.

20 May 2024 09:40:00
Chelsea themselves have come forward admitting wrong doing during the previous owners. Do they look at chelsea's titles too.

20 May 2024 10:40:14
If I understand correctly, a big aspect in the delays has been in Man City's attempting to delay matters wherever possible. I'm sure I read somewhere that they initially refused to hand over information requested by the EPL (which there were apparently obligated to do), tried to fight being required to fight the information etc. So far there has been years of them using any perceived legal argument to delay.

Compared with Everton and Nottingham Forrest, where I think they provided the information readily and accepted that they had breached the rules but had mitigation, it sort of explains why the City case is taking so long.

20 May 2024 10:40:27
I fear there will be government pressure due to the clubs ownership and the desire for constructive relations with UAE; there have already been rumours around this.

The time it is taking is ridiculous, Forest and Everton have been docked points yet the City saga goes on and on. I have no idea if they have done anything wrong, but over 100 charges suggests they may have.

There is a stench around this.

{Ed002's Note - A huge number of the charges are simply noise and should be discarded or dealt with easily. But sat in there are a few very serious charges. There is not going to be any government pressure.}

20 May 2024 10:46:58
If the Premier League find them not guilty after UEFA have already punished them it will truly show how corrupt the league is.

20 May 2024 13:28:56
Think a lot of charges though are for 'failure to co-operate' maybe 35 of the 115?

Which in itself you would find very strange given the club and Pep etc are all adamant they have done nothing wrong - if you have done nothing wrong and can prove that, why on earth wouldn't you?

I mean the UEFA case was proven, City waited until the appeal to introduce two witnesses whose testimony did not 'prove their innocence' as the club and Pep etc claim, but merely show that their guilt was moot as the statute of limitations, if you will, in this case had expired under UEFA regulations - no such time limit exists under Premier League rules

The charges are only up to the 2018 season I think too, so do we think they have been fully compliant since then? Or is the League investigating/ will investigate their financial dealings in the period post this as well?

I agree though lads, needs sorted once and for all - different though to both Forest and Everton given:
1. Forest and Everton cases far more simple - 1 case and 2 perhaps for Everton or a further breach of the same case? Either way, not 115 charges
2. Everton and Forest both co-operated and then admitted guilt - something Man City have not done.

19 May 2024 18:31:28
Cant stand the scousers, literally everything about them rattles me, however, I will put my hand up and say klopp was a great addition to our league. If he ever wanted to go to the proper reds I'd rip his arm off .

19 May 2024 19:24:45
Same here Deano totally agree.

19 May 2024 19:49:12
One suspects there'd be a few thousand Scousers wanting to rip his other arm off to beat him with.

19 May 2024 21:19:36
Big fan of Klopp and his style of football. Liverpool are much weaker without him now. Huge shoes to fill for Slot.

19 May 2024 21:58:07
I think he has been fantastic, I love his style of football, I love the way he engages with the fans and he was the perfect man for Liverpool. Going to be a very tough act to follow.

19 May 2024 23:37:31
Klopp was amazing and still is and he is better then Guardiola for sure.

20 May 2024 06:35:33
He was my first choice to replace Fergie.

20 May 2024 09:18:21
Better at what exactly Singh?

20 May 2024 13:39:24
He is not better at winning football matches.
Not better at winning trophies
Not better at building a squad
Not better at style of play Imo (subjective)

{Ed077's Note - Klopp is better at building the squad compared to Pep. I find Liverpool's matches more entertaining than Pep's City. Obviously the high octane, high action football of earlier Klopp era is miles more enjoyable than Boreball brand, at least IMO.

20 May 2024 15:49:59
If he was better at building squads they'd have won more often.
I agree the style is subjective. You and Mark goldbridge would go well together. He thinks curry ate boring too.

18 May 2024 15:57:34
De Zerbi leaving then.

Do we think he's coming to United or Bayern? Maybe Newcastle?

18 May 2024 16:50:30
I remember when he got the job a journo on Talksport said he will be off in 2 years-possibly the most ambitious manager he had known, every club will be a stepping stone until he gets Real Madrid or Barcelona was his opinion.

18 May 2024 16:56:46
Think he will be going to Bayern.

18 May 2024 17:14:27
About a week ago DeZerbi was described as overrated by Fabio Capello. Capello said DeZerbi never won anything except the Super Cup with Shakhtar Donetsk.

18 May 2024 19:44:57
Barcelona or Bayern. maybe Juventus but I'd say that's a step down.

18 May 2024 20:31:46
Bayern makes sense with the manager search there. I think it was mentioned before that he was a popular choice to replace Pep at City in a few years time, with Berrada coming in you could see the links. Then again it's what people are doing with Southgate and Ashworth.

19 May 2024 00:15:56
He is not going to bayern. Juve or napoli would be my guess. But that's just because he is Italian and the jobs are available.

19 May 2024 08:02:14
There will be a job at Milan too I’m guessing.

18 May 2024 12:46:14
Foden named epl player if the year and palmer named young player of the year.
I would agree on both of those awards.
Fantastic seasons for both players and neither are even close to their peak yet.
Well done to both who have been exceptional.

18 May 2024 13:53:04
Not sure about Foden winning. He has had his best season, but think Odegaard has been more consistent and more important to Arsenal this year. Nobody can argue with Palmer, massively stepped up and took his chance.

18 May 2024 16:26:09
Palmer was a no brainer.
They funded that deal by selling us mount.
Which makes it even worse.

18 May 2024 16:54:10
The even worse news is that we paid via Klarna, so we've got a few years of paying for his treatment yet.

18 May 2024 17:13:16
I'm with you Danny, Odergaad for me, he has been fantastic and leads that Arsenal team.

18 May 2024 18:26:24
I can’t believe Antony was overlooked 🤔.

18 May 2024 18:50:52
MVP has been Rodri. Without him arsenal win the league, no doubt. People overlook these critical defensive positions, but city were dropping points when he was out, as soon as he comes back, they steam rolled everyone.

18 May 2024 20:08:43
I thought rice was player of the season, he has been outstanding.

19 May 2024 12:58:37
Rice or Foden for me. Either way brilliant to see an Englishman pick up this accolade.